Does The Final Experiment Settle the FE Debate Once and For All?

Are Danny Faulkner and Will Duffy Stretching the Truth About the 24-hour Sun?

[Warning: This is a long (but interesting) post driven by video clips. I’ve included full videos for reference and smaller clips to make points. You’ll need some extra time to watch the clips.]

I received an email from my pastor asking if I knew about The Final Experiment (TFE) after he saw this video from Answers in Genesis (AIG) featuring Danny Faulkner, Will Duffy, and ex-NASA employee Rob Webb: This Will Settle the Flat Earth Debate Once and for ALL.

The AIG crew makes a positive claim in their title (TFE will definitively settle the FE debate). I will test the claim and put Duffy and the gang to the test since they have made the claim. Are they knowingly overstating their position? I will present the evidence and allow the reader to draw their conclusions based on the testimony of many witnesses.

At my Christian, globe-believing husband’s request, I will send copies of this article to Danny Faulkner and Will Duffy so they can know my concerns and correct any errors in my research. ¹

It had been my original intent to publish this article before learning the outcome of TFE. Yet, providentially, God delayed my efforts. Since then, new information supporting my conclusions has come to light, making this expose even more telling.

For those who scoff at Flat Earth and have fallen prey to the 24-hour sun in Antarctica as proof of a globe, the experiment’s outcome doesn’t change anything for me.² I would have shared the same conclusions with or without the phenomena. Now, I have the privilege of sharing from the position that there was indeed a 24-hour sun in Antarctic,³ as both globe believers and a large group of FE believers predicted.

That’s what I am going to discuss in this post.

Primer on Controlled Opposition

Before I begin, I’ll remind readers about controlled opposition (CO). No doubt there are people in the globe and FE camps speaking pro or con for false motives. I wrote about potential CO in the FE camp here: News Flash: Satan Doesn’t Care If You Believe the Earth Is Flat or A Sphere.

The premise of that post is that Satan has deceivers in the Flat Earth space. The master deceiver doesn’t care what you believe about the shape of the earth so long as he can get Christians to sin or drag unbelievers to hell.

So, how ought we respond to controlled opposition?

Be thankful for the truth they are telling and vigilant against their lies.

The same principle applies to controlled opposition in the globe camp, especially among professing Christians in ministries like Answers in Genesis or Agape Christian Fellowship.

We must be thankful for the truth they present in other ways about salvation and God’s creation. Here’s how the Apostle Paul handled controlled opposition in his day: “What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached; and in this I rejoice, yes, and will rejoice” (Philippians 1:18).

Paul rejoiced!

This position is consistent with Paul’s teaching in 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18: “Rejoice always, pray without ceasing, in everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.”

So I thank God for Will Duffy and Danny Faulkner in as much as they proclaim the truth. I’m also reminded of Romans 8:28: “And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.”

And that's precisely what TFE has accomplished: God has used it to work together for good, especially for the FE camp. According to the Psalms, I have prayed that God would cause every intention of the evil one to come to nothing and that He would expose the truth through TFE. That has happened in spades. Thanks to TFE, it is an exciting time to believe in the Flat Earth.

Please don’t be discouraged by a few nay-sayers or defectors.

Want a sneak peek at why I’m so excited? Watch Joe Hanvey explain it from his perspective. Thanks to David Weiss for picking up this story and sharing it on his YouTube channel.

On a side note: I do veer from Hanvey on what God has planned for the future of our earth.

Since Christ owns this realm, wrested it back from the devil at the cross, and promises to have dominion from sea to sea — we can be sure that when people again turn to God’s ways, we will experience the covenantal promises made to Abraham: That God will bless all the nations of the earth in Christ. BTW — this promise applies to His First Advent (a season we celebrate this time of year). Putting off this promise of blessing until Christ’s Second Advent doesn’t comport with the overall teaching of Scripture. The fulfillment began with the birth of the Godchild, and we can only expect the blessings to increase in time and history as we proclaim the preeminence of Christ in all things.

For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Of the increase of His government and peace
There will be no end,
Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom,
To order it and establish it with judgment and justice
From that time forward, even forever.
The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

Isaiah 9:6-7

That’s the real meaning of Christmas!

Praise to His name.

We can also rest knowing that God desires to reveal the truth of His creation among all men. And He is making it known and will continue to make it known.

Remember: The Flat Earth Is A Moral Issue. It matters to God tremendously.

So let’s dig through some material to discover whether or not The Final Experiment has settled the FE Debate once and for all, as Duffy and Faulkner claim — or see if they are stretching the truth a little.

Let’s start by introducing The Final Experiment (TFE) for those unaware of its significance.

What Is The Final Experiment?

I have been following TFE from early on. My first exposure was on Jeranism with Jeran Campanella, a seasoned and popular Flat Earth proponent. The episode discussing TFE aired on 6/5/24. Watch it here.

The first order of business for Jeran was to get out in the open that Will Duffy, the creator of TFE, lied to Sean Griffin of Kingdom in Context — something that Duffy had previously admitted to and apologized for. What was the lie? When Griffin asked Duffy who was behind TFE, he said he didn't know. Later, Duffy claimed he was not just the creator of TFE — but instead, he “was” The Final Experiment. Yet, Jeran wanted to clarify another matter that came up during the "apology": Did Duffy tell his family about the experiment or not? When Duffy shared that not even his family knew about TFE — that did not include his father.

A person caught in a lie is much more likely to apologize for lying than one who is not. Should a person who is apt to lie quickly be trusted? If we were to give Duffy the benefit of the doubt here — we should at least take his words lightly until he proved trustworthy.

More on this later.

All this aside, Will Duffy allegedly created TFE to answer the definitive claim (according to Duffy) that a 24-hour sun is impossible on a Flat Earth. To Duffy’s favor, many Flat Earthers had previously claimed for years that a 24-hour sun was not possible on a Flat Earth. Since Antarctica was not open to free and unhindered travel — and videos were circulating of a fake 24-hour sun — many Flat Earthers held on to this position tightly. Even the trusted Gleason FE Map stated that no sun was visible below 80 degrees south.

With this in mind, Duffy offered to pay for one FE and one Globe defender to go to Antarctica around its Summer solstice (in December) to see if there was or was not a 24-hour sun. This final experiment would, according to Duffy, settle the FE Debate for good. Duffy proposed several candidates and polled the audience to see who would be the best choice. After suspicions of fraud flared up on the FE side, Duffy generously agreed to pay for two FE participants to go to Antarctica so they could have camaraderie and not feel out-globed. Duffy’s dream team on the FE side was David Weiss and Eric Dubay, who both refused the opportunity. Instead, Duffy paid the way for Jeran Campanella of Jeranism and Austin Witsit of Witsit Gets It to make the trip.

BTW — TFE started officially on December 14, 2024, when a team of 10 or more people flew to Union Glacier Camp to see if the earth was a globe based on the sun's movement.

You can follow TFE here.

Can TFE Settle the FE Debate Once and For All?

According to Answers in Genesis’ Danny Faulkner, TFE will settle the issue of the globe versus the Flat Earth for good. There will be no more need to investigate. He can toss his Falling Flat book to the curb. And we can finally get back to spinning on our wobbly space ball without contention.

I wonder, though, why Faulkner thinks TFE is needed to settle the debate. According to a previous video by Faulkner, Pythagoras and the Greeks settled the issue 25 centuries ago. ⁴

I suspect the issue goes back a little further. God settled the matter some 6,000 years ago at creation. 

Back to the AIG video that professes TFE will finally settle the debate.

Three persons were represented in the AIG discussion about TFE: Danny Faulkner, Will Duffy, and ex-NASA employee Rob Webb.

Before investigating the claim that TFE will settle the matter, let’s see if we can trust the ones claiming it in the first place.

Can You Trust Faulkner?

In the following video, Faulkner jokes about playing with Flat Earthers to confuse them about his loyalties.

In case you’re not able to watch the video, Faulkner admits to using occult and Freemasonic symbols with the intent to deceive Flat Earthers into thinking he is a Freemason. 

I’m thankful that in this short clip, Faulkner shares a FB post that mocks Flat Earthers. There are many solid brothers and sisters in the Flat Earth camp. Many prefer “Biblical Cosmology” as it better represents what they believe about a solid firmament dome and other aspects of God’s perfect design. Why would someone involved in a Christian creation ministry want to belittle or mock another believer to get their point across? It seems unnecessary, ungodly, and unfruitful.

The last time I checked, the FB post was unavailable for viewing — but surprisingly, I found it today. Please read through the comments for yourself. I have taken screenshots of Faulkner joking about his Freemasonic ties in the comments. He later tells readers that they should have known he was only kidding. Why did he have the letter opener in the first place? In one comment, he writes of the Masonic artifact: “It belonged to my maternal grandfather, who was a Freemason. He died when I was four years old. I have no idea how I came into possession of the letter opener.”

Additionally, Faulkner repeatedly relies on straw man arguments and images when representing the Flat Earth. If you watched the video above, you saw Faulkner use pictures of the Flat Earth that do not represent what we teach or believe. Faulkner is not speaking out against the Flat Earth Society shill organization. He is defending against Christians (and others) who hold to a biblical Flat Earth. Would a truth-seeking Christian use a straw man argument to prove their point? If Faulkner is unaware that he is using a straw man depiction, he is not qualified to discuss the topic, even though he sets himself up as an expert.

Should experts use a straw man argument? Not if they are trying to present the truth. And if they genuinely don’t understand the position, they are not an expert.

I will present two additional witnesses from the AIG video: This Will Settle the Flat Earth Debate Once and for ALL.

The following clip addresses two issues: First, we see Faulkner again use a straw man picture of the Flat Earth. No true biblical cosmologist believes we live on a flat disk (with or without a dome) spinning in space. Instead, as the Bible declares, the earth has foundations and is founded upon the waters. Second, the video demonstrates Faulkner’s lack of understanding of the subject matter (or lack of integrity).

Let’s examine the first issue: Why would Faulkner choose a straw man image of the Flat Earth rather than an actual representation of what the Hebrews have held for millennia?

In Isaiah 40, God testifies that the ancient Hebrews understood the nature of His creation from the beginning.

Have you not known?
Have you not heard?
Has it not been told you from the beginning?
Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth?

It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

Isaiah 40:21-22

The ancient Hebrews KNEW, and God TESTIFIED that they knew, from the beginning, HOW He created this realm we call earth.

In the following video, Old Testament scholar Michael Heiser explains what the Hebrews believed about cosmology based on the Bible.

Sadly, Heiser claims that we “know” better today. He also claims pagans shared the same ancient cosmological view as the Hebrews. From the beginning, God assured us He made His cosmology easily understood. That’s precisely what Isaiah 40:21-22 and Romans 1:20 say. So, is Heiser correct in stating that we are wiser now because we know we live on a globe? We’d be smartest to trust God’s sure testimony.

Let's now address Faulkner's second error.

In the clip above, Faulkner laughs at the idea of perspective as a cause for the sun to rise and set over the Flat Earth — yet this can be modeled, tested, and predicted. Faulkner claims to be an expert. Has he never seen David Weiss demonstrate these things?

Why mock a scientifically verifiable perspective model to explain the sunrise and sunset? I know why. It appeals to the listener’s sinful nature, diminishes their critical thinking skills, and keeps them from researching the topic. It also creates camaraderie between “us smart globers” versus “those dumb flat earthers.” Christian ministries should not tolerate this kind of rhetoric in their organizations.

Yet, this is the man Christians look to for answers about Biblical Cosmology. Let’s see just how poor David Weiss’ model is.

Here, Weiss demonstrates how perspective on a flat surface WOULD cause a sunset. This model is testable and repeatable. It is NOT laughable. So why should Faulkner laugh?

And here’s another, where David Weiss explains the perspective grid on flat planes and how it affects sunrise and sunset.

Does Faulkner lack education concerning perspective? Or could he be intentionally deceiving? Either way, he is not qualified to be the Christian spokesman against Flat Earth. Based on his lack of proficiency, Danny Faulkner shows a want of the skill set needed to comprehend if a 24-sun would end the FE debate. But you can make up your mind on the matter.

Of course, Faulkner’s qualifications to speak to the issue do not determine if the claim is valid. It merely shows that he’s not the best one to trust on the matter.

Lest someone accuse me of an ad hominem — I will, later in this essay, provide conclusive evidence that the 24-hour sun in Antarctica doesn’t put an end to Flat Earth. Instead, it supports it.

Danny Faulkner: If you are reading this, take heed. God’s wrath is against those who suppress the truth of God’s creation in unrighteousness (Romans 1:18). Nothing is hidden from God. If you are intentionally deceiving His children, you will give an account. If you are uninformed, please seek the truth and present it unhindered.

To the reader: If you know Danny Faulkner or have the ear of anyone at Answers in Genesis, speak out about this topic until they acknowledge they have heard you. What is happening is unconscionable and unacceptable.

What About ex-NASA Employee Rob Webb?

Many Christians respect and glorify NASA, likely because they are enamored with space travel and science-turned-fiction. NASA was founded and fueled by Satanists, Freemasons, occultists, and filmmakers. Many truth-seekers have documented their deceptions. Yet, the average person doesn’t understand how they can fake space or how so many people could be involved in the cover-up.

Here is a playlist about FAKE SPACE to pursue further.

We should be content that God has said that man does not have dominion over the heavens, only the earth. “The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord’s; But the earth He has given to the children of men” (Psalm 115:16).

Additionally, God stopped those attempting to build a tower to the heavens at the Tower of Babel. Why should we expect God to be pleased with NASA trying to make a name for themselves in like manner?

Finally, God put a solid firmament over the earth. No one is getting through that.

It becomes a simple issue when we ask the question: Who are we going to trust? God or man?

How is it possible for NASA to fool so many people? I don’t know if Rob Webb is in on the secret. Yet, many in NASA are. How many? I don’t know. Some suggest only the higher echelon. Here is the testimony of a former NASA employee who discovered the secret.

BTW — I have a friend who knows this woman personally. She is a solid Christian, and her testimony is legit.

So, how does NASA keep its employees ignorant of the truth? The short answer is compartmentalization, which is well-demonstrated in the fictional movie Capricorn One. You’ll want to use a filter, as there is unacceptable language. After watching the fictional film, you’ll also want to watch the Apollo 11 Press Conference. Do those boys look like they are talking about man’s greatest accomplishment, or was the moon landing also science fiction? Finally, look at A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon by Bart Sibrel.

If you walk away from those three videos and still believe we landed on the moon, I’m not sure what to say.

Just because someone worked for NASA — and they claim to be a Christian — doesn’t mean you should trust them about the nature of the cosmos. They may be keeping secrets, or they may be unaware due to compartmentalization.

Consider this:

In a 2003 documentary, Apollo Flight Director Gene Kranz stated that: “The simulations were so real that no controller could discern the difference between the training and the real mission.”

In the same documentary, Kranz stated that one week before the launch of Apollo 11, NASA had to abort the final lunar landing simulation due to computer problems….

Thus, contrary to common belief, only a few people had direct access to events that occurred beyond low Earth orbit. In a 2002 documentary, even German NASA scientist Ernst Stuhlinger, who together with Wernher von Braun designed the Saturn V rocket, said about his knowledge of the Apollo moon landings: “I watched the television screen and believed what I saw.” ⁵

That is how compartmentalization and Hollywood work.

Rob Webb may be a true Christian brother. I do not know. A person can work for NASA and not know the right hand from the left.

Working for NASA should not be a badge of honor for the Christian. It doesn’t matter how many missions Webb worked on. We need to trust the Bible.

While I cannot accuse Webb of being an unreliable witness, I can attest that he is biased toward a globe and a solar system due to his work at NASA and his testimony.

And we will soon see that science supports a 24-hour sun in Antarctica on a Flat Earth.

Next, let’s investigate the alleged creator of The Final Experiment to see if he is a reliable witness.

Is Will Duffy to Be Trusted?

You may wonder why I question if Duffy is the true man behind the supposed nail in the Flat Earth coffin.

Initially, Duffy claimed he knew nothing about the person behind The Final Experiment and later claimed to be its sole founder. This duplicity, at minimum, establishes a propensity for Duffy not to tell the truth. And let’s not be too hard on him. The Bible says that all men are liars. That’s why we must not put our trust in men but in God alone. But here’s an interesting thought: What if Duffy wasn’t lying? What if he didn’t know who the founder of TFE was when he was on Sean Griffen’s show?

In his apology, Duffy claims that Griffen’s question about the TFE founder took him completely off guard. See if that’s what it looks like to you.

Warning: There is a hard-to-watch clip of McToon toward the end of this video, a person Duffy says is acting in good faith. He was also part of the TFE crew. This relationship between Duffy and McToon was one of the reasons David Weiss opted not to participate in TFE.

Could someone have approached Duffy with an offer? IDK. I’m only speculating, but it does lead to another reason to question his reliability.

It is no secret that Duffy is under investigation for making unsuitable broker recommendations.

Here’s an interesting timeline to consider:

• April 11, 2024 — Will Duffy publicly asked Sean Griffin if he knew about TFE and then denied knowing who created it.

• May 19, 2024 — Will Duffy publicly apologized for lying to Griffin about TFE, announcing himself as the creator.

• May 22, 2024 — A press release named Will Duffy under investigation for financial misdealings leading to the loss of $1M.

Sadly, this is not the first nor last allegation of fiduciary misconduct against Will Duffy. He’s also accused of violating federal securities laws, violating the Colorado Securities Act, breach of contract, common law fraud, breach of fiduciary duty, and negligence and gross negligence. Duffy has five complaints from 2022 to the present listed on his IAPD Report. ⁶

Allegations are not enough to condemn a man of misconduct. However, they make a person an easy target for a bailout or bribe, especially if an agenda is afoot.

Had Duffy only shown forth honesty in TFE, there would be no need to question his motives. Yet, I will demonstrate that Duffy has misrepresented significant data several times in The Final Experiment. This breach of intellectual honesty negatively impacts the discussion of the globe versus the Flat Earth. Yet, I am thankful that Duffy has been kind enough to document it along the way, which leans favorably to the Flat Earth.

To dig into that further, we must introduce another player on the stage: Joe Hanvey.

Who Is Joe Hanvey?

If you watched the first video I shared above that was not merely a link, the one I was excited about, then you’ve already met Joe Hanvey. Of all the people involved in this TFE discussion so far, I can attest that Hanvey is a genuine Christian representing Christ in the Flat Earth camp.

He and his band of Firmament Trackers have been predicting and modeling a 24-hour sun in Antarctica for some time. By God’s divine providence, for such a time as this, God raised Hanvey to testify of the truth. Beautifully, it is all on record.

On September 17, 2024, Joe Hanvey was live on Will Duffy’s TFE YouTube channel, sharing insights into his 24-hour Antarctic sun model on a Flat Earth. On that show, Hanvey also predicted that Will Duffy knew there was a 24-hour sun in Antarctica, just as his model demonstrates. Watch the full interview here.

During that interview, Will Duffy admitted that a firmament dome over the Flat Earth could cause an unexpected result concerning the 24-hour sun in Antarctica. Watch that clip here.

Later, Duffy changed his tune and claimed that “A real 24-hour sun in Antarctica is not possible on a Flat Earth,” even after earlier conceding that a solid crystalline dome could account for it. Joe Hanvey documents that in this YouTube short.

Sadly, I do not have the link from where Hanvey pulled the first part of this clip. But I have something even better. On December 10, 2024, Duffy testified to Danny Faulkner that no one attempted to present him a model of a 24-hour sun in Antarctica based on the Flat Earth.

Even if Duffy meant “mainstream” Flat Earthers only in his comment, ignoring Hanvey’s model is intellectually dishonest.

After witnessing the 24-hour sun in Antarctica, Duffy claimed that he falsified the AE map (a Flat Earth map), completely glossing over Hanvey's 24-hour sun predictions. Then, he dragged Jeran Campanella into the discussion, further stretching the truth. Here's that clip. Next, we'll look at what Jeran actually said.

Above, Will Duffy testifies that he agrees with Jeran that the 24-hour sun in Antarctica falsifies the “AE map for sure.” I will credit Duffy for pointing out that the Gleason Map (an AE map) claims that a 24-hour sun in Antarctica does not exist. You can find that discussed in the original recording.

If everything the team recorded about the sun in Antarctica is accurate [which I believe it is even though there have been a couple of legitimate concerns], then the portion of the Gleason Map that says there is no sun below 80 degrees south is indeed falsified. But that does not falsify the entire map. If it did, the world would be a mess. 

Even Wikipedia acknowledges the importance of the AE map.

The azimuthal equidistant projection [AE map] is an azimuthal map projection. It has the useful properties that all points on the map are at proportionally correct distances from the center point, and that all points on the map are at the correct azimuth (direction) from the center point. A useful application for this type of projection is a polar projection which shows all meridians (lines of longitude) as straight, with distances from the pole represented correctly. ⁷

The AE map is “proportionally correct” according to mainstream science, and “distances from the pole [are] represented correctly.” This accuracy is why airlines use it for flights, and global organizations use it in their logos. Allow that to sink in. Take as much time as you need.

Now, let's listen to what Jeran actually said about falsifying the AE map. It's not nearly as absolute as Duffy claims. 

Jeran leaves room for a possible explanation for the 24-hour sun that he is unaware of. Contrast that with Duffy, who, even after admitting to Hanvey that a solid firmament dome could cause the sun to move unexpectedly on a Flat Earth — and seeing a working model of how it could work — makes an absolute claim that the 24-hour sun falsified the AE map just as Jeran said.  

Oh, the Irony!

I know people who have contacted Jeran with a working model of the 24-hour sun in Antarctica on a Flat Earth. Yet, he has held on tightly to his model in good faith. And in good faith, Jeran admitted that his model was wrong. 

On the other hand, Duffy knows the FE 24-hour Antarctic sun model well, admitting it is possible while publically ignoring it. In a future post, I will delve deeper into his knowledge of those modeling this phenomenon. 

So, who are the people making these predictions? 

The Firmament Trackers

There is a growing group of Flat Earthers who are not sitting around waiting for the globalists to admit we are living on a flat, stationary plane. Instead, they are working in concert to track the lights in the sky all around the Flat Earth, creating accurate apps and predicting and modeling the movements of the celestials on the FE. 

That’s how they KNEW there would be a 24-hour sun in Antarctica — and, BTW — how they also knew there would be NO 24-hour moon during TFE — something not even Duffy understood (which I will save for a future post).

The Firmament Trackers is a NO TROLLS TOLERATED group of researchers taking action to observe and record the true realm where we live. They gather in a Facebook group, which you can access below. The group is private and vets applicants to keep the trolls away.

Ask to join Firmament Trackers here. At the time of writing, there are 28.8K group members. This figure is no small number.

Meet their app developer, Steven Alonzo. And remember that name because it will come up again.

Learn about the Firmament Trackers Flat Earth app here.

You can download the app from the Google Play store.

As of December 16, 2024, it is only available in Android, but I spoke with the developer, and the iOS version is in the works [as long as it has taken me to write this article, it may already be available]. The app not only predicted the 24-hour sun in Antarctica, but the math behind the app won Steven Alonzo three challenges on TFE — more on that in my next post. 

Now, allow me to introduce you to the Firmament Trackers’ chief model expert, Joe Hanvey. As you recall, Will Duffy had Joe Hanvey live on his TFE YouTube channel. Hanvey presented Duffy with the Flat Earth 24-hour sun model, and Duffy conceded that the reflective firmament dome would make it possible for the lights in the sky to act in a way we would not expect in Antarctica. Later, Duffy conveniently forgot about this conversation and model, falsely stating that no one even attempted the feat.

Austin Witsit was also aware of this model and talked about it while in Antarctica, and David Weiss picked up the story and shared it on his DITRH YouTube channel, as shared previously. Here it is again for those who did not watch it.

Below, you can see that it is not merely the app that can predict a 24-hour sun on a Flat Earth, but the 24-hour sun in Antarctica also works in a physical model. Joe Hanvey demonstrates this here.

In this next video, Joe Hanvey demonstrates this phenomenon with star rotations based on the same model.

As mentioned earlier, people from the Firmament Trackers warned Jeran and Witsit that the true FE model predicts a 24-hour sun in Antarctica. Sadly, they didn’t take that information seriously, meaning the Antarctic sun dealt them both a brutal blow, which they accepted gracefully, admitting they were wrong about the 24-hour sun in Antarctica.

They were also each grateful to Will Duffy for the chance to fly out to Antarctica to see it for themselves. The absence of a 24-hour sun in Antarctica has been a popular topic among most mainstream FEers. However, it has NOT been the position among ALL Flat Earthers. There were those among the Firmament Trackers who had suspected or predicted a 24-hour sun in Antarctica for some time.

But this next bit of information might surprise you.

Will Duffy and the Firmament Trackers

Not only did Will Duffy speak to Joe Hanvey about his 24-hour sun prediction, but he was also aware of the Firmament Trackers group and their research.

I found this out in the most unusual way.

Since this post is getting MUCH longer than I anticipated, I will share the rest of the story in my next installment. No doubt, I will have more data at that time as well.

However, let me wrap up what we have discussed.

Wrapping Things Up

We’ve seen a working model of the 24-hour sun in Antarctica and discovered that Will Duffy knew about it. He admitted that a reflective firmament dome could cause the lights in the sky to act unexpectedly. Yet, when stating the outcome of TFE, he only claimed that he has falsified the AE Map — while ignoring the other evidence. This approach is not scientific at all. Or biblical, for that matter. 

I will grant that Danny Faulkner may not have known about the Firmament Trackers apps or models, so I cannot hold him to that information. Yet, I can call him out for presenting untruths about the Flat Earth model, creating straw man arguments, trolling Flat Earthers with occult symbols, and ignoring actual science. Pray that he is exposed unto repentance. Pray the same for Will Duffy.

Another critical topic in this discussion I have yet to mention is that Jeran, Austin, Weiss, and others have repeatedly falsified the globe model with a preponderance of evidence of no curvature or movement of the earth.

We must make our conclusions about the TFE based on all the data. This approach is something that Hanvey and others have supported from the beginning: We can’t measure the nature of the floor by looking at the ceiling.

A few of my conclusions:

• TFE did show the 24-hour sun in Antarctica, moving the discussion forward;

• TFE did not settle the FE Debate once and for all — or did it in our favor?

• TFE, with Hanvey’s model, confirms God’s Word about the firmament dome;

• TFE did not falsify the AE map;

• Will Duffy and Danny Faulkner did stretch the truth.

Flat Earth is anything but dead!

That’s all for now. Thanks for reading.

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1. I don’t expect that to happen.

2. Either way, we live on a Flat Earth. When we measure earth’s landscape at equal elevations, the land is flat. We can’t decide if the floor is level by filming the motion of a fan on the ceiling. Instead, we need to measure the floor. I admit there was a time I also discounted the 24-hour sun in Antarctica. Why? Because that’s where the evidence led. However, before TFE, new evidence came to light, which shifted my thinking toward the likelihood of a 24-hour sun in Antarctica.

3. Assuming everything was above board, which is what I believe.

4. Watch the full video here.

5. https://swprs.org/the-moon-landing-debate/

6. https://reports.adviserinfo.sec.gov/reports/individual/individual_6726333.pdf

7. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azimuthal_equidistant_projection